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Good afternoon, Colleagues

I do not know how many of our CLCPs are on this forum and also on the ICHCC Collaborative Group email distribution / listserv, so I thought it prudent to share. On 08/12/22, I posted an email, followed by a second one on 08/13/22, to the ICHCC Collaborative Group asking questions regarding:

There was a follow up email to the ICHCC Collaborative Group from IARP leadership this last week, after seeing the Friday through Sunday posts. That email stated that the conference documentation for getting approved for CEUs by all of the certifying agencies, is in progress, and not submitted yet, so we do not know what will and will not be approved quite yet. I completely understand that fact, but based on what I have been told by ICHCC, they will not be providing us CEUS for the CLCP, regardless of the quality content of the presentations. This is no longer about if our educational content meets the standards. This is way bigger than that.  I think it is important for our CLCPs to know this now, before they start spending money on travel arrangements or turning down work because they will be out of the office for most of a week.  

Let me be clear, I will be at the Symposium, and I am in no way discouraging any of our members to not to go the October event. I for one, find greater value in the networking with my colleagues and learning new information, then my CEUs / CLCP provide to me on paper. I also think we need to come together to have face to face meetings about these current challenges. 

What upsets me is that I feel very in the dark as to what has been going on behind the scenes between the two organizations and how there has not been any transparency provided to us, the members, by IARP or ICHCC .  IARP is an organization that WE pay for. WE volunteer for. WE advocate for. Their job is to support US. They work for US.  There have been lawsuits filed against a couple of our IALCP members in the past year that have been kept under wraps. No one is talking about it [those who were sued cannot talk about it openly].  IARP knew of the lawsuits, they have not supported those members, even when one suit included a volunteer leader who should have been protected from these types of claims.

Mrs. May actually asked me if I could somehow help to resolve the problems that lay before us. I would love to be involved in that, but I cannot help to resolve problems that I do not understand. I am told by Mrs. May that there are years of paper trails that document the issues at hand. There are organizational problems and there are exchanges which have become very personal. Neither are going to be resolved easily, if at all.  

I implore IARP and ICHCC leadership to provide our members the information we need to make our own best decisions. While again, I reiterate that I will be at the Symposium, if for no other reason, to have face to face discussions with each other and those involved, but also because these are the professional decisions that I am facing and I think all of you are as well:

1. Do I attend future conferences for the love of networking and education, if they do not provide me what I need to stay certified?
2. Do I even keep my CLCP designation in the future and does it really even have any value any longer?
3. Do I continue my membership in an organization that may not actually support me if I need them?
4. Do I volunteer to work for an organization that may not support me if I need them?

 I encourage everybody to continue the conversation and think about what we, as an industry of life care planners, should be doing at this point to make a difference. We are already a splintered community in many ways and this is making it much worse.

Good afternoon, Colleagues

I do not know how many of our CLCPs are on this forum and also on the ICHCC Collaborative Group email distribution / listserv, so I thought it prudent to share. On 08/12/22, I posted an email, followed by a second one on 08/13/22, to the ICHCC Collaborative Group asking questions regarding:

There was a follow up email to the ICHCC Collaborative Group from IARP leadership this last week, after seeing the Friday through Sunday posts. That email stated that the conference documentation for getting approved for CEUs by all of the certifying agencies, is in progress, and not submitted yet, so we do not know what will and will not be approved quite yet. I completely understand that fact, but based on what I have been told by ICHCC, they will not be providing us CEUS for the CLCP, regardless of the quality content of the presentations. This is no longer about if our educational content meets the standards. This is way bigger than that.  I think it is important for our CLCPs to know this now, before they start spending money on travel arrangements or turning down work because they will be out of the office for most of a week.  

Let me be clear, I will be at the Symposium, and I am in no way discouraging any of our members to not to go the October event. I for one, find greater value in the networking with my colleagues and learning new information, then my CEUs / CLCP provide to me on paper. I also think we need to come together to have face to face meetings about these current challenges. 

What upsets me is that I feel very in the dark as to what has been going on behind the scenes between the two organizations and how there has not been any transparency provided to us, the members, by IARP or ICHCC .  IARP is an organization that WE pay for. WE volunteer for. WE advocate for. Their job is to support US. They work for US.  There have been lawsuits filed against a couple of our IALCP members in the past year that have been kept under wraps. No one is talking about it [those who were sued cannot talk about it openly].  IARP knew of the lawsuits, they have not supported those members, even when one suit included a volunteer leader who should have been protected from these types of claims.

Mrs. May actually asked me if I could somehow help to resolve the problems that lay before us. I would love to be involved in that, but I cannot help to resolve problems that I do not understand. I am told by Mrs. May that there are years of paper trails that document the issues at hand. There are organizational problems and there are exchanges which have become very personal. Neither are going to be resolved easily, if at all.  

I implore IARP and ICHCC leadership to provide our members the information we need to make our own best decisions. While again, I reiterate that I will be at the Symposium, if for no other reason, to have face to face discussions with each other and those involved, but also because these are the professional decisions that I am facing and I think all of you are as well:

1. Do I attend future conferences for the love of networking and education, if they do not provide me what I need to stay certified?
2. Do I even keep my CLCP designation in the future and does it really even have any value any longer?
3. Do I continue my membership in an organization that may not actually support me if I need them?
4. Do I volunteer to work for an organization that may not support me if I need them?

 I encourage everybody to continue the conversation and think about what we, as an industry of life care planners, should be doing at this point to make a difference. We are already a splintered community in many ways and this is making it much worse.

Good afternoon, Colleagues

I do not know how many of our CLCPs are on this forum and also on the ICHCC Collaborative Group email distribution / listserv, so I thought it prudent to share. On 08/12/22, I posted an email, followed by a second one on 08/13/22, to the ICHCC Collaborative Group asking questions regarding:

There was a follow up email to the ICHCC Collaborative Group from IARP leadership this last week, after seeing the Friday through Sunday posts. That email stated that the conference documentation for getting approved for CEUs by all of the certifying agencies, is in progress, and not submitted yet, so we do not know what will and will not be approved quite yet. I completely understand that fact, but based on what I have been told by ICHCC, they will not be providing us CEUS for the CLCP, regardless of the quality content of the presentations. This is no longer about if our educational content meets the standards. This is way bigger than that.  I think it is important for our CLCPs to know this now, before they start spending money on travel arrangements or turning down work because they will be out of the office for most of a week.  

Let me be clear, I will be at the Symposium, and I am in no way discouraging any of our members to not to go the October event. I for one, find greater value in the networking with my colleagues and learning new information, then my CEUs / CLCP provide to me on paper. I also think we need to come together to have face to face meetings about these current challenges. 

What upsets me is that I feel very in the dark as to what has been going on behind the scenes between the two organizations and how there has not been any transparency provided to us, the members, by IARP or ICHCC .  IARP is an organization that WE pay for. WE volunteer for. WE advocate for. Their job is to support US. They work for US.  There have been lawsuits filed against a couple of our IALCP members in the past year that have been kept under wraps. No one is talking about it [those who were sued cannot talk about it openly].  IARP knew of the lawsuits, they have not supported those members, even when one suit included a volunteer leader who should have been protected from these types of claims.

Mrs. May actually asked me if I could somehow help to resolve the problems that lay before us. I would love to be involved in that, but I cannot help to resolve problems that I do not understand. I am told by Mrs. May that there are years of paper trails that document the issues at hand. There are organizational problems and there are exchanges which have become very personal. Neither are going to be resolved easily, if at all.  

I implore IARP and ICHCC leadership to provide our members the information we need to make our own best decisions. While again, I reiterate that I will be at the Symposium, if for no other reason, to have face to face discussions with each other and those involved, but also because these are the professional decisions that I am facing and I think all of you are as well:

1. Do I attend future conferences for the love of networking and education, if they do not provide me what I need to stay certified?
2. Do I even keep my CLCP designation in the future and does it really even have any value any longer?
3. Do I continue my membership in an organization that may not actually support me if I need them?
4. Do I volunteer to work for an organization that may not support me if I need them?

 I encourage everybody to continue the conversation and think about what we, as an industry of life care planners, should be doing at this point to make a difference. We are already a splintered community in many ways and this is making it much worse.

Good afternoon, Colleagues

I do not know how many of our CLCPs are on this forum and also on the ICHCC Collaborative Group email distribution / listserv, so I thought it prudent to share. On 08/12/22, I posted an email, followed by a second one on 08/13/22, to the ICHCC Collaborative Group asking questions regarding:

There was a follow up email to the ICHCC Collaborative Group from IARP leadership this last week, after seeing the Friday through Sunday posts. That email stated that the conference documentation for getting approved for CEUs by all of the certifying agencies, is in progress, and not submitted yet, so we do not know what will and will not be approved quite yet. I completely understand that fact, but based on what I have been told by ICHCC, they will not be providing us CEUS for the CLCP, regardless of the quality content of the presentations. This is no longer about if our educational content meets the standards. This is way bigger than that.  I think it is important for our CLCPs to know this now, before they start spending money on travel arrangements or turning down work because they will be out of the office for most of a week.  

Let me be clear, I will be at the Symposium, and I am in no way discouraging any of our members to not to go the October event. I for one, find greater value in the networking with my colleagues and learning new information, then my CEUs / CLCP provide to me on paper. I also think we need to come together to have face to face meetings about these current challenges. 

What upsets me is that I feel very in the dark as to what has been going on behind the scenes between the two organizations and how there has not been any transparency provided to us, the members, by IARP or ICHCC .  IARP is an organization that WE pay for. WE volunteer for. WE advocate for. Their job is to support US. They work for US.  There have been lawsuits filed against a couple of our IALCP members in the past year that have been kept under wraps. No one is talking about it [those who were sued cannot talk about it openly].  IARP knew of the lawsuits, they have not supported those members, even when one suit included a volunteer leader who should have been protected from these types of claims.

Mrs. May actually asked me if I could somehow help to resolve the problems that lay before us. I would love to be involved in that, but I cannot help to resolve problems that I do not understand. I am told by Mrs. May that there are years of paper trails that document the issues at hand. There are organizational problems and there are exchanges which have become very personal. Neither are going to be resolved easily, if at all.  

I implore IARP and ICHCC leadership to provide our members the information we need to make our own best decisions. While again, I reiterate that I will be at the Symposium, if for no other reason, to have face to face discussions with each other and those involved, but also because these are the professional decisions that I am facing and I think all of you are as well:

1. Do I attend future conferences for the love of networking and education, if they do not provide me what I need to stay certified?
2. Do I even keep my CLCP designation in the future and does it really even have any value any longer?
3. Do I continue my membership in an organization that may not actually support me if I need them?
4. Do I volunteer to work for an organization that may not support me if I need them?

 I encourage everybody to continue the conversation and think about what we, as an industry of life care planners, should be doing at this point to make a difference. We are already a splintered community in many ways and this is making it much worse.

Good afternoon, Colleagues

I do not know how many of our CLCPs are on this forum and also on the ICHCC Collaborative Group email distribution / listserv, so I thought it prudent to share. On 08/12/22, I posted an email, followed by a second one on 08/13/22, to the ICHCC Collaborative Group asking questions regarding:

There was a follow up email to the ICHCC Collaborative Group from IARP leadership this last week, after seeing the Friday through Sunday posts. That email stated that the conference documentation for getting approved for CEUs by all of the certifying agencies, is in progress, and not submitted yet, so we do not know what will and will not be approved quite yet. I completely understand that fact, but based on what I have been told by ICHCC, they will not be providing us CEUS for the CLCP, regardless of the quality content of the presentations. This is no longer about if our educational content meets the standards. This is way bigger than that.  I think it is important for our CLCPs to know this now, before they start spending money on travel arrangements or turning down work because they will be out of the office for most of a week.  

Let me be clear, I will be at the Symposium, and I am in no way discouraging any of our members to not to go the October event. I for one, find greater value in the networking with my colleagues and learning new information, then my CEUs / CLCP provide to me on paper. I also think we need to come together to have face to face meetings about these current challenges. 

What upsets me is that I feel very in the dark as to what has been going on behind the scenes between the two organizations and how there has not been any transparency provided to us, the members, by IARP or ICHCC .  IARP is an organization that WE pay for. WE volunteer for. WE advocate for. Their job is to support US. They work for US.  There have been lawsuits filed against a couple of our IALCP members in the past year that have been kept under wraps. No one is talking about it [those who were sued cannot talk about it openly].  IARP knew of the lawsuits, they have not supported those members, even when one suit included a volunteer leader who should have been protected from these types of claims.

Mrs. May actually asked me if I could somehow help to resolve the problems that lay before us. I would love to be involved in that, but I cannot help to resolve problems that I do not understand. I am told by Mrs. May that there are years of paper trails that document the issues at hand. There are organizational problems and there are exchanges which have become very personal. Neither are going to be resolved easily, if at all.  

I implore IARP and ICHCC leadership to provide our members the information we need to make our own best decisions. While again, I reiterate that I will be at the Symposium, if for no other reason, to have face to face discussions with each other and those involved, but also because these are the professional decisions that I am facing and I think all of you are as well:

1. Do I attend future conferences for the love of networking and education, if they do not provide me what I need to stay certified?
2. Do I even keep my CLCP designation in the future and does it really even have any value any longer?
3. Do I continue my membership in an organization that may not actually support me if I need them?
4. Do I volunteer to work for an organization that may not support me if I need them?

 I encourage everybody to continue the conversation and think about what we, as an industry of life care planners, should be doing at this point to make a difference. We are already a splintered community in many ways and this is making it much worse.

Julie-

I want to correct one of your statements. I have not had any conversations with Mrs. May or Dr. May. 

Susan

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http://www.grishamzaras.com

   

Good afternoon, Colleagues

I do not know how many of our CLCPs are on this forum and also on the ICHCC Collaborative Group email distribution / listserv, so I thought it prudent to share. On 08/12/22, I posted an email, followed by a second one on 08/13/22, to the ICHCC Collaborative Group asking questions regarding:

There was a follow up email to the ICHCC Collaborative Group from IARP leadership this last week, after seeing the Friday through Sunday posts. That email stated that the conference documentation for getting approved for CEUs by all of the certifying agencies, is in progress, and not submitted yet, so we do not know what will and will not be approved quite yet. I completely understand that fact, but based on what I have been told by ICHCC, they will not be providing us CEUS for the CLCP, regardless of the quality content of the presentations. This is no longer about if our educational content meets the standards. This is way bigger than that.  I think it is important for our CLCPs to know this now, before they start spending money on travel arrangements or turning down work because they will be out of the office for most of a week.  

Let me be clear, I will be at the Symposium, and I am in no way discouraging any of our members to not to go the October event. I for one, find greater value in the networking with my colleagues and learning new information, then my CEUs / CLCP provide to me on paper. I also think we need to come together to have face to face meetings about these current challenges. 

What upsets me is that I feel very in the dark as to what has been going on behind the scenes between the two organizations and how there has not been any transparency provided to us, the members, by IARP or ICHCC .  IARP is an organization that WE pay for. WE volunteer for. WE advocate for. Their job is to support US. They work for US.  There have been lawsuits filed against a couple of our IALCP members in the past year that have been kept under wraps. No one is talking about it [those who were sued cannot talk about it openly].  IARP knew of the lawsuits, they have not supported those members, even when one suit included a volunteer leader who should have been protected from these types of claims.

Mrs. May actually asked me if I could somehow help to resolve the problems that lay before us. I would love to be involved in that, but I cannot help to resolve problems that I do not understand. I am told by Mrs. May that there are years of paper trails that document the issues at hand. There are organizational problems and there are exchanges which have become very personal. Neither are going to be resolved easily, if at all.  

I implore IARP and ICHCC leadership to provide our members the information we need to make our own best decisions. While again, I reiterate that I will be at the Symposium, if for no other reason, to have face to face discussions with each other and those involved, but also because these are the professional decisions that I am facing and I think all of you are as well:

1. Do I attend future conferences for the love of networking and education, if they do not provide me what I need to stay certified?
2. Do I even keep my CLCP designation in the future and does it really even have any value any longer?
3. Do I continue my membership in an organization that may not actually support me if I need them?
4. Do I volunteer to work for an organization that may not support me if I need them?

 I encourage everybody to continue the conversation and think about what we, as an industry of life care planners, should be doing at this point to make a difference. We are already a splintered community in many ways and this is making it much worse.

Good afternoon, Colleagues

I do not know how many of our CLCPs are on this forum and also on the ICHCC Collaborative Group email distribution / listserv, so I thought it prudent to share. On 08/12/22, I posted an email, followed by a second one on 08/13/22, to the ICHCC Collaborative Group asking questions regarding:

There was a follow up email to the ICHCC Collaborative Group from IARP leadership this last week, after seeing the Friday through Sunday posts. That email stated that the conference documentation for getting approved for CEUs by all of the certifying agencies, is in progress, and not submitted yet, so we do not know what will and will not be approved quite yet. I completely understand that fact, but based on what I have been told by ICHCC, they will not be providing us CEUS for the CLCP, regardless of the quality content of the presentations. This is no longer about if our educational content meets the standards. This is way bigger than that.  I think it is important for our CLCPs to know this now, before they start spending money on travel arrangements or turning down work because they will be out of the office for most of a week.  

Let me be clear, I will be at the Symposium, and I am in no way discouraging any of our members to not to go the October event. I for one, find greater value in the networking with my colleagues and learning new information, then my CEUs / CLCP provide to me on paper. I also think we need to come together to have face to face meetings about these current challenges. 

What upsets me is that I feel very in the dark as to what has been going on behind the scenes between the two organizations and how there has not been any transparency provided to us, the members, by IARP or ICHCC .  IARP is an organization that WE pay for. WE volunteer for. WE advocate for. Their job is to support US. They work for US.  There have been lawsuits filed against a couple of our IALCP members in the past year that have been kept under wraps. No one is talking about it [those who were sued cannot talk about it openly].  IARP knew of the lawsuits, they have not supported those members, even when one suit included a volunteer leader who should have been protected from these types of claims.

Mrs. May actually asked me if I could somehow help to resolve the problems that lay before us. I would love to be involved in that, but I cannot help to resolve problems that I do not understand. I am told by Mrs. May that there are years of paper trails that document the issues at hand. There are organizational problems and there are exchanges which have become very personal. Neither are going to be resolved easily, if at all.  

I implore IARP and ICHCC leadership to provide our members the information we need to make our own best decisions. While again, I reiterate that I will be at the Symposium, if for no other reason, to have face to face discussions with each other and those involved, but also because these are the professional decisions that I am facing and I think all of you are as well:

1. Do I attend future conferences for the love of networking and education, if they do not provide me what I need to stay certified?
2. Do I even keep my CLCP designation in the future and does it really even have any value any longer?
3. Do I continue my membership in an organization that may not actually support me if I need them?
4. Do I volunteer to work for an organization that may not support me if I need them?

 I encourage everybody to continue the conversation and think about what we, as an industry of life care planners, should be doing at this point to make a difference. We are already a splintered community in many ways and this is making it much worse.

Good afternoon, Colleagues

I do not know how many of our CLCPs are on this forum and also on the ICHCC Collaborative Group email distribution / listserv, so I thought it prudent to share. On 08/12/22, I posted an email, followed by a second one on 08/13/22, to the ICHCC Collaborative Group asking questions regarding:

There was a follow up email to the ICHCC Collaborative Group from IARP leadership this last week, after seeing the Friday through Sunday posts. That email stated that the conference documentation for getting approved for CEUs by all of the certifying agencies, is in progress, and not submitted yet, so we do not know what will and will not be approved quite yet. I completely understand that fact, but based on what I have been told by ICHCC, they will not be providing us CEUS for the CLCP, regardless of the quality content of the presentations. This is no longer about if our educational content meets the standards. This is way bigger than that.  I think it is important for our CLCPs to know this now, before they start spending money on travel arrangements or turning down work because they will be out of the office for most of a week.  

Let me be clear, I will be at the Symposium, and I am in no way discouraging any of our members to not to go the October event. I for one, find greater value in the networking with my colleagues and learning new information, then my CEUs / CLCP provide to me on paper. I also think we need to come together to have face to face meetings about these current challenges.

What upsets me is that I feel very in the dark as to what has been going on behind the scenes between the two organizations and how there has not been any transparency provided to us, the members, by IARP or ICHCC .  IARP is an organization that WE pay for. WE volunteer for. WE advocate for. Their job is to support US. They work for US.  There have been lawsuits filed against a couple of our IALCP members in the past year that have been kept under wraps. No one is talking about it [those who were sued cannot talk about it openly].  IARP knew of the lawsuits, they have not supported those members, even when one suit included a volunteer leader who should have been protected from these types of claims.

Mrs. May actually asked me if I could somehow help to resolve the problems that lay before us. I would love to be involved in that, but I cannot help to resolve problems that I do not understand. I am told by Mrs. May that there are years of paper trails that document the issues at hand. There are organizational problems and there are exchanges which have become very personal. Neither are going to be resolved easily, if at all.  

I implore IARP and ICHCC leadership to provide our members the information we need to make our own best decisions. While again, I reiterate that I will be at the Symposium, if for no other reason, to have face to face discussions with each other and those involved, but also because these are the professional decisions that I am facing and I think all of you are as well:

1. Do I attend future conferences for the love of networking and education, if they do not provide me what I need to stay certified?
2. Do I even keep my CLCP designation in the future and does it really even have any value any longer?
3. Do I continue my membership in an organization that may not actually support me if I need them?
4. Do I volunteer to work for an organization that may not support me if I need them?

 I encourage everybody to continue the conversation and think about what we, as an industry of life care planners, should be doing at this point to make a difference. We are already a splintered community in many ways and this is making it much worse.

Good afternoon, Colleagues

I do not know how many of our CLCPs are on this forum and also on the ICHCC Collaborative Group email distribution / listserv, so I thought it prudent to share. On 08/12/22, I posted an email, followed by a second one on 08/13/22, to the ICHCC Collaborative Group asking questions regarding:

There was a follow up email to the ICHCC Collaborative Group from IARP leadership this last week, after seeing the Friday through Sunday posts. That email stated that the conference documentation for getting approved for CEUs by all of the certifying agencies, is in progress, and not submitted yet, so we do not know what will and will not be approved quite yet. I completely understand that fact, but based on what I have been told by ICHCC, they will not be providing us CEUS for the CLCP, regardless of the quality content of the presentations. This is no longer about if our educational content meets the standards. This is way bigger than that.  I think it is important for our CLCPs to know this now, before they start spending money on travel arrangements or turning down work because they will be out of the office for most of a week.  

Let me be clear, I will be at the Symposium, and I am in no way discouraging any of our members to not to go the October event. I for one, find greater value in the networking with my colleagues and learning new information, then my CEUs / CLCP provide to me on paper. I also think we need to come together to have face to face meetings about these current challenges.

What upsets me is that I feel very in the dark as to what has been going on behind the scenes between the two organizations and how there has not been any transparency provided to us, the members, by IARP or ICHCC .  IARP is an organization that WE pay for. WE volunteer for. WE advocate for. Their job is to support US. They work for US.  There have been lawsuits filed against a couple of our IALCP members in the past year that have been kept under wraps. No one is talking about it [those who were sued cannot talk about it openly].  IARP knew of the lawsuits, they have not supported those members, even when one suit included a volunteer leader who should have been protected from these types of claims.

Mrs. May actually asked me if I could somehow help to resolve the problems that lay before us. I would love to be involved in that, but I cannot help to resolve problems that I do not understand. I am told by Mrs. May that there are years of paper trails that document the issues at hand. There are organizational problems and there are exchanges which have become very personal. Neither are going to be resolved easily, if at all.  

I implore IARP and ICHCC leadership to provide our members the information we need to make our own best decisions. While again, I reiterate that I will be at the Symposium, if for no other reason, to have face to face discussions with each other and those involved, but also because these are the professional decisions that I am facing and I think all of you are as well:

1. Do I attend future conferences for the love of networking and education, if they do not provide me what I need to stay certified?
2. Do I even keep my CLCP designation in the future and does it really even have any value any longer?
3. Do I continue my membership in an organization that may not actually support me if I need them?
4. Do I volunteer to work for an organization that may not support me if I need them?

 I encourage everybody to continue the conversation and think about what we, as an industry of life care planners, should be doing at this point to make a difference. We are already a splintered community in many ways and this is making it much worse.

Good afternoon, Colleagues

I do not know how many of our CLCPs are on this forum and also on the ICHCC Collaborative Group email distribution / listserv, so I thought it prudent to share. On 08/12/22, I posted an email, followed by a second one on 08/13/22, to the ICHCC Collaborative Group asking questions regarding:

There was a follow up email to the ICHCC Collaborative Group from IARP leadership this last week, after seeing the Friday through Sunday posts. That email stated that the conference documentation for getting approved for CEUs by all of the certifying agencies, is in progress, and not submitted yet, so we do not know what will and will not be approved quite yet. I completely understand that fact, but based on what I have been told by ICHCC, they will not be providing us CEUS for the CLCP, regardless of the quality content of the presentations. This is no longer about if our educational content meets the standards. This is way bigger than that.  I think it is important for our CLCPs to know this now, before they start spending money on travel arrangements or turning down work because they will be out of the office for most of a week.  

Let me be clear, I will be at the Symposium, and I am in no way discouraging any of our members to not to go the October event. I for one, find greater value in the networking with my colleagues and learning new information, then my CEUs / CLCP provide to me on paper. I also think we need to come together to have face to face meetings about these current challenges.

What upsets me is that I feel very in the dark as to what has been going on behind the scenes between the two organizations and how there has not been any transparency provided to us, the members, by IARP or ICHCC .  IARP is an organization that WE pay for. WE volunteer for. WE advocate for. Their job is to support US. They work for US.  There have been lawsuits filed against a couple of our IALCP members in the past year that have been kept under wraps. No one is talking about it [those who were sued cannot talk about it openly].  IARP knew of the lawsuits, they have not supported those members, even when one suit included a volunteer leader who should have been protected from these types of claims.

Mrs. May actually asked me if I could somehow help to resolve the problems that lay before us. I would love to be involved in that, but I cannot help to resolve problems that I do not understand. I am told by Mrs. May that there are years of paper trails that document the issues at hand. There are organizational problems and there are exchanges which have become very personal. Neither are going to be resolved easily, if at all.  

I implore IARP and ICHCC leadership to provide our members the information we need to make our own best decisions. While again, I reiterate that I will be at the Symposium, if for no other reason, to have face to face discussions with each other and those involved, but also because these are the professional decisions that I am facing and I think all of you are as well:

1. Do I attend future conferences for the love of networking and education, if they do not provide me what I need to stay certified?
2. Do I even keep my CLCP designation in the future and does it really even have any value any longer?
3. Do I continue my membership in an organization that may not actually support me if I need them?
4. Do I volunteer to work for an organization that may not support me if I need them?

 I encourage everybody to continue the conversation and think about what we, as an industry of life care planners, should be doing at this point to make a difference. We are already a splintered community in many ways and this is making it much worse.

Good afternoon, Colleagues

I do not know how many of our CLCPs are on this forum and also on the ICHCC Collaborative Group email distribution / listserv, so I thought it prudent to share. On 08/12/22, I posted an email, followed by a second one on 08/13/22, to the ICHCC Collaborative Group asking questions regarding:

There was a follow up email to the ICHCC Collaborative Group from IARP leadership this last week, after seeing the Friday through Sunday posts. That email stated that the conference documentation for getting approved for CEUs by all of the certifying agencies, is in progress, and not submitted yet, so we do not know what will and will not be approved quite yet. I completely understand that fact, but based on what I have been told by ICHCC, they will not be providing us CEUS for the CLCP, regardless of the quality content of the presentations. This is no longer about if our educational content meets the standards. This is way bigger than that.  I think it is important for our CLCPs to know this now, before they start spending money on travel arrangements or turning down work because they will be out of the office for most of a week.  

Let me be clear, I will be at the Symposium, and I am in no way discouraging any of our members to not to go the October event. I for one, find greater value in the networking with my colleagues and learning new information, then my CEUs / CLCP provide to me on paper. I also think we need to come together to have face to face meetings about these current challenges.

What upsets me is that I feel very in the dark as to what has been going on behind the scenes between the two organizations and how there has not been any transparency provided to us, the members, by IARP or ICHCC .  IARP is an organization that WE pay for. WE volunteer for. WE advocate for. Their job is to support US. They work for US.  There have been lawsuits filed against a couple of our IALCP members in the past year that have been kept under wraps. No one is talking about it [those who were sued cannot talk about it openly].  IARP knew of the lawsuits, they have not supported those members, even when one suit included a volunteer leader who should have been protected from these types of claims.

Mrs. May actually asked me if I could somehow help to resolve the problems that lay before us. I would love to be involved in that, but I cannot help to resolve problems that I do not understand. I am told by Mrs. May that there are years of paper trails that document the issues at hand. There are organizational problems and there are exchanges which have become very personal. Neither are going to be resolved easily, if at all.  

I implore IARP and ICHCC leadership to provide our members the information we need to make our own best decisions. While again, I reiterate that I will be at the Symposium, if for no other reason, to have face to face discussions with each other and those involved, but also because these are the professional decisions that I am facing and I think all of you are as well:

1. Do I attend future conferences for the love of networking and education, if they do not provide me what I need to stay certified?
2. Do I even keep my CLCP designation in the future and does it really even have any value any longer?
3. Do I continue my membership in an organization that may not actually support me if I need them?
4. Do I volunteer to work for an organization that may not support me if I need them?

 I encourage everybody to continue the conversation and think about what we, as an industry of life care planners, should be doing at this point to make a difference. We are already a splintered community in many ways and this is making it much worse.

Good afternoon, Colleagues

I do not know how many of our CLCPs are on this forum and also on the ICHCC Collaborative Group email distribution / listserv, so I thought it prudent to share. On 08/12/22, I posted an email, followed by a second one on 08/13/22, to the ICHCC Collaborative Group asking questions regarding:

There was a follow up email to the ICHCC Collaborative Group from IARP leadership this last week, after seeing the Friday through Sunday posts. That email stated that the conference documentation for getting approved for CEUs by all of the certifying agencies, is in progress, and not submitted yet, so we do not know what will and will not be approved quite yet. I completely understand that fact, but based on what I have been told by ICHCC, they will not be providing us CEUS for the CLCP, regardless of the quality content of the presentations. This is no longer about if our educational content meets the standards. This is way bigger than that.  I think it is important for our CLCPs to know this now, before they start spending money on travel arrangements or turning down work because they will be out of the office for most of a week.  

Let me be clear, I will be at the Symposium, and I am in no way discouraging any of our members to not to go the October event. I for one, find greater value in the networking with my colleagues and learning new information, then my CEUs / CLCP provide to me on paper. I also think we need to come together to have face to face meetings about these current challenges.

What upsets me is that I feel very in the dark as to what has been going on behind the scenes between the two organizations and how there has not been any transparency provided to us, the members, by IARP or ICHCC .  IARP is an organization that WE pay for. WE volunteer for. WE advocate for. Their job is to support US. They work for US.  There have been lawsuits filed against a couple of our IALCP members in the past year that have been kept under wraps. No one is talking about it [those who were sued cannot talk about it openly].  IARP knew of the lawsuits, they have not supported those members, even when one suit included a volunteer leader who should have been protected from these types of claims.

Mrs. May actually asked me if I could somehow help to resolve the problems that lay before us. I would love to be involved in that, but I cannot help to resolve problems that I do not understand. I am told by Mrs. May that there are years of paper trails that document the issues at hand. There are organizational problems and there are exchanges which have become very personal. Neither are going to be resolved easily, if at all.  

I implore IARP and ICHCC leadership to provide our members the information we need to make our own best decisions. While again, I reiterate that I will be at the Symposium, if for no other reason, to have face to face discussions with each other and those involved, but also because these are the professional decisions that I am facing and I think all of you are as well:

1. Do I attend future conferences for the love of networking and education, if they do not provide me what I need to stay certified?
2. Do I even keep my CLCP designation in the future and does it really even have any value any longer?
3. Do I continue my membership in an organization that may not actually support me if I need them?
4. Do I volunteer to work for an organization that may not support me if I need them?

 I encourage everybody to continue the conversation and think about what we, as an industry of life care planners, should be doing at this point to make a difference. We are already a splintered community in many ways and this is making it much worse.