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Good evening all

We are running into an issue with some vendors....and I wondered if this is occurring in other areas (and how you are handling it).  Perhaps it is a reflection of the economy?

When asking for prices, some vendors are giving the charge they normally bill to insurance and then, seem to always add a BUT, if "you pay cash the day of the test, it is $ __________".  There is a real difference of numbers here, sometimes as little as half the original cost or even less.  I've routinely asked for clarification... one hospital charge clerk indicated today that  "if a patient has no insurance, the price is still the lower one, however they are asked to pay what they can and then are put on a payment plan"

I don't use negotiated fees in my LCPs.....and, in the past, have considered the reduced "cash" price in this vein.

Perhaps a range (cash to insurance cost) is more appropriate?  I would appreciate thoughts from the group.

Thanks much

Ann Neulicht



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Ann T. Neulicht PhD
(919) 870-6048
Raleigh, NC
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I am finding this true as well Ann but continue to use the full rate, not the reduced one. Angie Angela M. Heitzman, MA, CRC, CLCP, MSCC angela@heitzmanrehab.com Heitzman Rehabilitation, LLC St. Louis Park, Minnesota 952-924-9028 NOTICE: Electronic Disclosure Statement: This e-mail is not encrypted. If you are communicating about a client/evaluee, please do NOT place the person's name or personal information in the e-mail or subject line. Please use non-descriptive identifiers since this is an unsecured form of communication.This email and its attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information that is meant to be viewed by the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient or believe you have received this message in error, please contact angela@heitzmanrehab.com immediately and delete this message. Any unauthorized use, distribution, or disclosure of this information is prohibited. Thank you.
Original Message----- From: Ann Neulicht [mailto:noreply@egroups.rehabpro.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:24 PM To: Angela Heitzman Subject: [IARP IALCP]:: Reduced "cash" cost? This message has been cross posted to the following Discussions: Forensic and IALCP . ------------------------------------------- Good evening all We are running into an issue with some vendors....and I wondered if this is occurring in other areas (and how you are handling it). Perhaps it is a reflection of the economy? When asking for prices, some vendors are giving the charge they normally bill to insurance and then, seem to always add a BUT, if "you pay cash the day of the test, it is $ __________". There is a real difference of numbers here, sometimes as little as half the original cost or even less. I've routinely asked for clarification... one hospital charge clerk indicated today that "if a patient has no insurance, the price is still the lower one, however they are asked to pay what they can and then are put on a payment plan" I don't use negotiated fees in my LCPs.....and, in the past, have considered the reduced "cash" price in this vein. Perhaps a range (cash to insurance cost) is more appropriate? I would appreciate thoughts from the group. Thanks much Ann Neulicht ------------------------------------------- Ann T. Neulicht PhD (919) 870-6048 Raleigh, NC -------------------------------------------

I do not use negotiated rates, such as contracts for insurers. However, if a provider/facility has a separate rate for cash-pay/private-pay, I will use that and I don't consider it a "negotiated" rate. I ask what a person without insurance would pay. Karen Preston PHN, MS, CRRN, FIALCP RNS HealthCare Consultants 4811 Chippendale Drive, Suite 304 Sacramento, CA 95841 Office (916) 929-6506 Fax (916) 929-6013 RNSpreston@aol.com The information contained in this electronic mail transmission is confidential and intended to be sent only to the stated recipient of the transmission. It may therefore be protected from unauthorized use or dissemination. If you are not the intended recipient or an agent of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Thank you for your cooperation.
Original Message----- From: Angela Heitzman To: Karen Preston Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 6:10 pm Subject: [IARP IALCP]:: RE: Reduced "cash" cost? I am finding this true as well Ann but continue to use the full rate, not he reduced one. Angie Angela M. Heitzman, MA, CRC, CLCP, MSCC ngela@heitzmanrehab.com eitzman Rehabilitation, LLC t. Louis Park, Minnesota 52-924-9028 OTICE: Electronic Disclosure Statement: This e-mail is not encrypted. If ou are communicating about a client/evaluee, please do NOT place the erson's name or personal information in the e-mail or subject line. Please se non-descriptive identifiers since this is an unsecured form of ommunication.This email and its attachments may contain privileged and/or onfidential information that is meant to be viewed by the intended ecipient only. If you are not the intended recipient or believe you have eceived this message in error, please contact angela@heitzmanrehab.com mmediately and delete this message. Any unauthorized use, distribution, or isclosure of this information is prohibited. Thank you.