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  • 1.  "Limited" LCP

    Posted 04-08-2016 17:23

    Hello all,

    I'm interested in the ethics of only addressing some of the typical components of a LCP.

    An attorney contacted me with a case that has a limited award ceiling.  With existing medical bills some of that is already used, so the attorney wants a LCP that will only address consumables and non-medical services.  

    Specifically items such as:  

    Wheelchair needs
    Wheelchair accessories and maintenance
    Home furnishings and accessories
    Aids for independent function
    Supply needs
    Home care or facility-based care needs
    Transportation needs
    Architectural renovations

    Any ethical problems with this?

    Thanks in advance and have a great weekend ~ Todd

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    Todd Harden, MA, CRC, LPC, CLCP
    Vocational Expert, Certified Life Care Planner, Forensic Vocational Consultant
    todd@hardenconsulting.net
    Burleson, Texas
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  • 2.  RE: "Limited" LCP

    Posted 04-08-2016 17:56

    First, I would not call it a life care plan. Second, I would include an explanation of what was requested to explain the future cost projections. With those 2 steps I would move forward and get it done 

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    Susan Wirt
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    susan@wirtandassociates.com
    Catawba, VA United States

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  • 3.  RE: "Limited" LCP

    Posted 04-08-2016 17:59
    I had a similar situation with a very severe injury and low policy limits. I had concerns about my own ethics continuing to work on a life care plan that would not be able to be fully funded and knowing every hour I worked would take away from the ultimate settlement for the injured person.

    I discussed this with the attorney who was very grateful for my concerns.  I ended up placing all of the items in the life care plan that were necessary but not pricing all of them. In the comments section I wrote something like, "cost information will be obtained upon request". The life care plan is then available for the injured person or caregivers to use as a road map for care.

    I see nothing unethical about the request. You could call it a preliminary life care plan and explain in your narrative that all costs for the life care plan were not obtained but will be if requested. I would talk it through with the attorney.
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  • 4.  RE: "Limited" LCP

    Posted 04-08-2016 18:11

    You may do this, but do not call it a life care plan because it does not meet all the criteria for standards of practice.

    Many life care planners do this type of work product and call it something else.

    At my company, we call it "Future Care Cost Projections"; under this kind of heading you can do whatever abbreviated version you wish.

    FYI, at the Summit 2012 this was discussed and the consensus was that it is OK to do but we will not, as a field, formally give this type of work product a universal name or create separate standards/rules for "less than" products.

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  • 5.  RE: "Limited" LCP

    Posted 04-08-2016 18:16

    I call them focused expense analysis

     

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  • 6.  RE: "Limited" LCP

    Posted 04-08-2016 18:15

    I would not call it a Life Care Plan as it does not meet all of the criteria for standards of practice; you could do this with a title such of Cost of Services Report or something along those lines 

     

    Kathleen B. Murphy RN, MSN, CRRN, FIALCP

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  • 7.  RE: "Limited" LCP

    Posted 04-11-2016 12:39

    Thanks everyone for the great ideas and expert advice.

    Have a great day ~ Todd

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    Todd Harden, MA, CRC, LPC, CLCP
    Vocational Expert, Certified Life Care Planner, Forensic Vocational Consultant
    todd@hardenconsulting.net
    Burleson, Texas

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