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  • 1.  Cross Post ACA and LCP

    Posted 01-10-2016 13:58
    Bob
     
    This is a very detailed issue with many prongs ACA, subrogation, court cases, standards of Practice, etc.. 
     
    The last 2 JLCPs have published on this issue. They should be read in full, but here is a post presentation excerpt from the most recent JLCP:
     

    "Practical Application

    The practical application of the ACA to the life care planning practice was then presented including practical information, suggested references and guidance with a few examples.

    • There is nothing in the Standards of Practice or Consensus and Majority Statements indicating we can not provide a variety of information regarding costs and collateral sources if requested.
    • Life Care Planning is a tool of Case Management.
    • Life Care Planners are permitted to provide useful information to the parties as requested.
    • Jurisdictional variations should be noted.
    • We are not making a statement about what is the "right" cost to use, or who should pay.
    • The jury and/or judge will do that.
    • However, relating to costs, the issue of "reasonably available to the evaluee" (SOP 4B) cannot be ignored. This includes "reasonably available" now and in the future."
    The bottom line is the life care planner should proceed in practice as usual and understand that coverage does not equate to care. Our job is to identify what items cost, not who is paying for them. 
     
    Lastly, the ACA is not a health insurance program, but regulates the health care industry by expanding health care to all Americans. 
     

    "Additional specific information included areas not commonly known, includes:

    • Your maximum share of the costs of covered services may include the deductible, but otherwise exclude items that don't count toward the out of pocket limit.  
    • These exclusions may include: premiums, balance billed charges, items and services the health plan does not cover, penalties for failing to obtain pre-authorization, deductibles or vision.  Some plans do not count all of your co-payments, deductible, co-insurance payments, out of pocket expenses or other expenses toward the out of pocket limit.  
    • These exclusions are costs above and beyond the limit imposed by the ACA and may not apply to policies outside of policies obtained through the state health exchanges. 
    • Further, and likely most significant, is the variability in policies and the annual rate increases and changes to policies in coverage beyond the "minimum essential coverage" outlined by the ACA."
     
    What this means is the amount of maximum out-of-pocket is not the maximum amount spent by any individual. Thus it cannot reasonably be considered by the life care planner in any given year with changes in policies . 
     
    I am not comfortable telling an evaluee everything is covered for the rest of their life. I am not sure I want the E and O claim. 
     
    And as everyone saw in the popular press this week the House again voted to repeal the ACA and the President blocked it again. House Speaker Ryan was on national TV indicating if a Republican is elected it will be the first order of business to repeal it. Public knowledge. Speculative? ;-)
     
    On we go!
     
    Best

    Cloie

    Cloie B. Johnson, MEd
    cloie@osc-voc.com 
    OSC Vocational Systems, Inc.  
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      Original Message

    Original Message------

    I am being questioned a great deal about how Obama Care will affect what is payable in my Life Care Plans.  Are there any definitive sources I can go to in order to find out what is or is not covered under Obama Care?  Thanks for any thoughts.

    Bob Gisclair

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    Bob Gisclair
    Rehab Counselor, Certified Life Care Planner
    boba@gisclair.com
    Baton Rouge, LA United States

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    Cloie B. Johnson, MEd
    Rehabilitation Counselor/Case Manager

    OSC Vocational Systems, Inc.
    Bothell, WA 98011

    425-949-4406
    206-666-2748 fax
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  • 2.  RE: Cross Post ACA and LCP

    Posted 01-10-2016 14:40

    The ACA raises more questions than can possibly be answered by life care planners. Cloie is absolutely correct to raise the issue of speculation with regard to public policy and politics, let alone economics, finance, and the various interested parties (lobbyists) on all sides.

     

    I like to point out to attorneys who raise this issue in testimony, the maxim and title of a famous book by a very conservative economist, Milton Friedman, "There is no such thing as a free lunch". All public funding of health care amounts to no more than cost shifting from one party to another. We cannot give a non-speculative opinion how the costs are to be shifted to others, ie, the various defendants, the taxpayers, or the health care providers. The damages are the damages regardless of who the final payor may be.  My advice is to calculate all of the damages to the best of your ability, and leave it at that. Let the lawyers fight over the flesh of the kill.

     

    Kent

     






  • 3.  RE: Cross Post ACA and LCP

    Posted 01-10-2016 19:24
    And let us all remember that subrogation is alive and well, usually defined in the insurance policy near the end, close the the definitions sections.  


    Judith Parker, M.Ed., CDMS, ABVE-D, CLCP
    OSC Vocational Systems, Inc.
    Phone 425 949 4408
    Fax  425 486 8701
    judith@osc-voc.com







  • 4.  RE: Cross Post ACA and LCP

    Posted 01-11-2016 13:22

    Nice explanation, Cloie.  I would also like to add that one of the goals of the ACA is transparency in coverage and pricing see Section 2715A Public Health Service Act, Section 1311(e) of ACA. I agree that while the source of funding may be shifted amongst various payers, and for quite some time, prices themselves will become more transparent and it will become important, and hopefully easier, for the Life Care Planner to identify the most accurate codes and associated prices. In addition, there are many new codes including those for transitional care, care coordination and even one in rule making for discussions around end of life and advanced directives.  If you focus on the "triple aim", or the primary goals of the ACA, which are Access, Quality and Cost, and focus your life care plans toward those goals, your plans will align with the intent of the ACA.

     

     

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