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In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

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In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

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In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

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In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

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In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

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In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

I thought It was a funny add on to the conversation...and not at all snarky...

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

Sent from Mail for Windows

In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

Whether he thinks that was a joke or not, the reader(s) may not, so he is out of line here.  

I thought It was a funny add on to the conversation...and not at all snarky...

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

Sent from Mail for Windows

In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

...are we as a professional group sooooo serious that we cannot be jovial in our conversation

Whether he thinks that was a joke or not, the reader(s) may not, so he is out of line here.  

I thought It was a funny add on to the conversation...and not at all snarky...

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

Sent from Mail for Windows

In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

I did not take it as jovial, and I have received several personal emails from Listmates who read it the same way I did.  I think there is a lesson here.  Something that may be meant as a joke in person can be pulled off with facial expression, a wink, or a slight smile.  The written word does not work that way.  We need to be aware of that.

...are we as a professional group sooooo serious that we cannot be jovial in our conversation

Whether he thinks that was a joke or not, the reader(s) may not, so he is out of line here.  

I thought It was a funny add on to the conversation...and not at all snarky...

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

DISCLAIMER: This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Additionally, this communication and/or attached files may contain protected health information, which is governed by HIPAA regulations. If this information is intended to be forwarded or shared, you and your entity are responsible to assure HIPAA regulation and guidelines are followed. If you are not the intended recipient any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

Sent from Mail for Windows

In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

I believe there are very serious people in this world and very serious people that also have the human element of being friendly, which means allowing for play.  Placing a get off my grass sign in conversation does not sound very friendly and does not allow for brain storming or just plain friendliness, which I see is necessary.  Providing a statement that my group all feels the same is one opinion but really are we this grim of play of any sort in our conversation...that it produces a funeral parlor mentality.

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

DISCLAIMER: This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Additionally, this communication and/or attached files may contain protected health information, which is governed by HIPAA regulations. If this information is intended to be forwarded or shared, you and your entity are responsible to assure HIPAA regulation and guidelines are followed. If you are not the intended recipient any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

I did not take it as jovial, and I have received several personal emails from Listmates who read it the same way I did.  I think there is a lesson here.  Something that may be meant as a joke in person can be pulled off with facial expression, a wink, or a slight smile.  The written word does not work that way.  We need to be aware of that.

...are we as a professional group sooooo serious that we cannot be jovial in our conversation

Whether he thinks that was a joke or not, the reader(s) may not, so he is out of line here.  

I thought It was a funny add on to the conversation...and not at all snarky...

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

DISCLAIMER: This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Additionally, this communication and/or attached files may contain protected health information, which is governed by HIPAA regulations. If this information is intended to be forwarded or shared, you and your entity are responsible to assure HIPAA regulation and guidelines are followed. If you are not the intended recipient any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

Sent from Mail for Windows

In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

IMO, The one liner had no real context and while meant to be off cuff humor, it had no intended target, certainly not at anyone on this Listserv.  The lesson learned for me with these types of exchanges is that attempts to censor is alive and well in too many avenues.  I am a newer member to this forum but I beg it offers more than some other "mediums" and would be best served not trying to stifle others from posting.  It's not how any organization grows, prospers, or attracts free thinkers.  There are no "bots" on here so have we not learned anything from Twitter?

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I believe there are very serious people in this world and very serious people that also have the human element of being friendly, which means allowing for play.  Placing a get off my grass sign in conversation does not sound very friendly and does not allow for brain storming or just plain friendliness, which I see is necessary.  Providing a statement that my group all feels the same is one opinion but really are we this grim of play of any sort in our conversation...that it produces a funeral parlor mentality.

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

DISCLAIMER: This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Additionally, this communication and/or attached files may contain protected health information, which is governed by HIPAA regulations. If this information is intended to be forwarded or shared, you and your entity are responsible to assure HIPAA regulation and guidelines are followed. If you are not the intended recipient any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

I did not take it as jovial, and I have received several personal emails from Listmates who read it the same way I did.  I think there is a lesson here.  Something that may be meant as a joke in person can be pulled off with facial expression, a wink, or a slight smile.  The written word does not work that way.  We need to be aware of that.

...are we as a professional group sooooo serious that we cannot be jovial in our conversation

Whether he thinks that was a joke or not, the reader(s) may not, so he is out of line here.  

I thought It was a funny add on to the conversation...and not at all snarky...

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

DISCLAIMER: This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Additionally, this communication and/or attached files may contain protected health information, which is governed by HIPAA regulations. If this information is intended to be forwarded or shared, you and your entity are responsible to assure HIPAA regulation and guidelines are followed. If you are not the intended recipient any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.

Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

Sent from Mail for Windows

In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

IMO, The one liner had no real context and while meant to be off cuff humor, it had no intended target, certainly not at anyone on this Listserv.  The lesson learned for me with these types of exchanges is that attempts to censor is alive and well in too many avenues.  I am a newer member to this forum but I beg it offers more than some other "mediums" and would be best served not trying to stifle others from posting.  It's not how any organization grows, prospers, or attracts free thinkers.  There are no "bots" on here so have we not learned anything from Twitter?

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I believe there are very serious people in this world and very serious people that also have the human element of being friendly, which means allowing for play.  Placing a get off my grass sign in conversation does not sound very friendly and does not allow for brain storming or just plain friendliness, which I see is necessary.  Providing a statement that my group all feels the same is one opinion but really are we this grim of play of any sort in our conversation...that it produces a funeral parlor mentality.

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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I did not take it as jovial, and I have received several personal emails from Listmates who read it the same way I did.  I think there is a lesson here.  Something that may be meant as a joke in person can be pulled off with facial expression, a wink, or a slight smile.  The written word does not work that way.  We need to be aware of that.

...are we as a professional group sooooo serious that we cannot be jovial in our conversation

Whether he thinks that was a joke or not, the reader(s) may not, so he is out of line here.  

I thought It was a funny add on to the conversation...and not at all snarky...

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

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Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

Sent from Mail for Windows

In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

I am not here to discuss Twitter or politics which is where that would likely end up.  I don't like to give my opinion on topics that I am not that familiar with but in this case I will say that you are likely pretty far off point in whatever non-Musk entity you are referring to when you say "they" had appeared to do.....well reasoned and good things.  That gave me a chuckle for sure.

Feel free to express your thoughts on Twitter or Musk but I will only respond further on those topics via private email.

Best,

Joe

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IMO, The one liner had no real context and while meant to be off cuff humor, it had no intended target, certainly not at anyone on this Listserv.  The lesson learned for me with these types of exchanges is that attempts to censor is alive and well in too many avenues.  I am a newer member to this forum but I beg it offers more than some other "mediums" and would be best served not trying to stifle others from posting.  It's not how any organization grows, prospers, or attracts free thinkers.  There are no "bots" on here so have we not learned anything from Twitter?

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I believe there are very serious people in this world and very serious people that also have the human element of being friendly, which means allowing for play.  Placing a get off my grass sign in conversation does not sound very friendly and does not allow for brain storming or just plain friendliness, which I see is necessary.  Providing a statement that my group all feels the same is one opinion but really are we this grim of play of any sort in our conversation...that it produces a funeral parlor mentality.

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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I did not take it as jovial, and I have received several personal emails from Listmates who read it the same way I did.  I think there is a lesson here.  Something that may be meant as a joke in person can be pulled off with facial expression, a wink, or a slight smile.  The written word does not work that way.  We need to be aware of that.

...are we as a professional group sooooo serious that we cannot be jovial in our conversation

Whether he thinks that was a joke or not, the reader(s) may not, so he is out of line here.  

I thought It was a funny add on to the conversation...and not at all snarky...

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

Sent from Mail for Windows

In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

Joseph,  Are you not the same person who a few hours ago posted:  ".  The lesson learned for me with these types of exchanges is that attempts to censor is alive and well in too many avenues.  I am a newer member to this forum but I beg it offers more than some other "mediums" and would be best served not trying to stifle others from posting. "   Just sayin. . .

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I am not here to discuss Twitter or politics which is where that would likely end up.  I don't like to give my opinion on topics that I am not that familiar with but in this case I will say that you are likely pretty far off point in whatever non-Musk entity you are referring to when you say "they" had appeared to do.....well reasoned and good things.  That gave me a chuckle for sure.

Feel free to express your thoughts on Twitter or Musk but I will only respond further on those topics via private email.

Best,

Joe

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IMO, The one liner had no real context and while meant to be off cuff humor, it had no intended target, certainly not at anyone on this Listserv.  The lesson learned for me with these types of exchanges is that attempts to censor is alive and well in too many avenues.  I am a newer member to this forum but I beg it offers more than some other "mediums" and would be best served not trying to stifle others from posting.  It's not how any organization grows, prospers, or attracts free thinkers.  There are no "bots" on here so have we not learned anything from Twitter?

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I believe there are very serious people in this world and very serious people that also have the human element of being friendly, which means allowing for play.  Placing a get off my grass sign in conversation does not sound very friendly and does not allow for brain storming or just plain friendliness, which I see is necessary.  Providing a statement that my group all feels the same is one opinion but really are we this grim of play of any sort in our conversation...that it produces a funeral parlor mentality.

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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I did not take it as jovial, and I have received several personal emails from Listmates who read it the same way I did.  I think there is a lesson here.  Something that may be meant as a joke in person can be pulled off with facial expression, a wink, or a slight smile.  The written word does not work that way.  We need to be aware of that.

...are we as a professional group sooooo serious that we cannot be jovial in our conversation

Whether he thinks that was a joke or not, the reader(s) may not, so he is out of line here.  

I thought It was a funny add on to the conversation...and not at all snarky...

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

Sent from Mail for Windows

In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

Making a Twitter reference is not the same as talking about that medium.  Scott chose to take that route by turning my post against censorship on this professional medium and equating it with his personal views or assumptions? about Twitter and a soliloquy on Elon Musk.  It's not my place to discourage or encourage that but there is an expectation as to what I consider a professional topic vs personal views on current affairs.  My point was that I was not going to continue that conversation in public as it missed my point.  The censorship topic was and is related to what can occur on these Listserv's where personal values or agendas bleed into topics that start out relevant to the profession.  This recent correspondence, from a Truck Driver post, originated from a simple, harmless post which was minimally funny and certainly uneventful that garnered a response that was out of proportion and has continued to be out of proportion.

Sometimes people tend to hang onto every word or post members make.  I didn't realize what I was saying was so intriguing or that my posts were that complex (isn't censorship generally bad?)  but when posts get responses from the same members, even crossing over from one Listserv to the other, then maybe we should start forming fan clubs..........  I know that I have some regular followers from other Listserv's.......... ��

Happy Thirsty Thursday (for those of you whom prefer non-alcoholic drinks, feel free to have a Shirly Temple on me)

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Joseph,  Are you not the same person who a few hours ago posted:  ".  The lesson learned for me with these types of exchanges is that attempts to censor is alive and well in too many avenues.  I am a newer member to this forum but I beg it offers more than some other "mediums" and would be best served not trying to stifle others from posting. "   Just sayin. . .

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IMARC
P.O. Box 7931
Boise, ID 83707
208-331-3368

barbnelsonimarc1@gmail.com

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I am not here to discuss Twitter or politics which is where that would likely end up.  I don't like to give my opinion on topics that I am not that familiar with but in this case I will say that you are likely pretty far off point in whatever non-Musk entity you are referring to when you say "they" had appeared to do.....well reasoned and good things.  That gave me a chuckle for sure.

Feel free to express your thoughts on Twitter or Musk but I will only respond further on those topics via private email.

Best,

Joe

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IMO, The one liner had no real context and while meant to be off cuff humor, it had no intended target, certainly not at anyone on this Listserv.  The lesson learned for me with these types of exchanges is that attempts to censor is alive and well in too many avenues.  I am a newer member to this forum but I beg it offers more than some other "mediums" and would be best served not trying to stifle others from posting.  It's not how any organization grows, prospers, or attracts free thinkers.  There are no "bots" on here so have we not learned anything from Twitter?

������

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I believe there are very serious people in this world and very serious people that also have the human element of being friendly, which means allowing for play.  Placing a get off my grass sign in conversation does not sound very friendly and does not allow for brain storming or just plain friendliness, which I see is necessary.  Providing a statement that my group all feels the same is one opinion but really are we this grim of play of any sort in our conversation...that it produces a funeral parlor mentality.

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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I did not take it as jovial, and I have received several personal emails from Listmates who read it the same way I did.  I think there is a lesson here.  Something that may be meant as a joke in person can be pulled off with facial expression, a wink, or a slight smile.  The written word does not work that way.  We need to be aware of that.

...are we as a professional group sooooo serious that we cannot be jovial in our conversation

Whether he thinks that was a joke or not, the reader(s) may not, so he is out of line here.  

I thought It was a funny add on to the conversation...and not at all snarky...

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

Sent from Mail for Windows

In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

I am not here to discuss Twitter or politics which is where that would likely end up.  I don't like to give my opinion on topics that I am not that familiar with but in this case I will say that you are likely pretty far off point in whatever non-Musk entity you are referring to when you say "they" had appeared to do.....well reasoned and good things.  That gave me a chuckle for sure.

Feel free to express your thoughts on Twitter or Musk but I will only respond further on those topics via private email.

Best,

Joe

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IMO, The one liner had no real context and while meant to be off cuff humor, it had no intended target, certainly not at anyone on this Listserv.  The lesson learned for me with these types of exchanges is that attempts to censor is alive and well in too many avenues.  I am a newer member to this forum but I beg it offers more than some other "mediums" and would be best served not trying to stifle others from posting.  It's not how any organization grows, prospers, or attracts free thinkers.  There are no "bots" on here so have we not learned anything from Twitter?

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I believe there are very serious people in this world and very serious people that also have the human element of being friendly, which means allowing for play.  Placing a get off my grass sign in conversation does not sound very friendly and does not allow for brain storming or just plain friendliness, which I see is necessary.  Providing a statement that my group all feels the same is one opinion but really are we this grim of play of any sort in our conversation...that it produces a funeral parlor mentality.

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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I did not take it as jovial, and I have received several personal emails from Listmates who read it the same way I did.  I think there is a lesson here.  Something that may be meant as a joke in person can be pulled off with facial expression, a wink, or a slight smile.  The written word does not work that way.  We need to be aware of that.

...are we as a professional group sooooo serious that we cannot be jovial in our conversation

Whether he thinks that was a joke or not, the reader(s) may not, so he is out of line here.  

I thought It was a funny add on to the conversation...and not at all snarky...

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

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In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

I am not here to discuss Twitter or politics which is where that would likely end up.  I don't like to give my opinion on topics that I am not that familiar with but in this case I will say that you are likely pretty far off point in whatever non-Musk entity you are referring to when you say "they" had appeared to do.....well reasoned and good things.  That gave me a chuckle for sure.

Feel free to express your thoughts on Twitter or Musk but I will only respond further on those topics via private email.

Best,

Joe

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IMO, The one liner had no real context and while meant to be off cuff humor, it had no intended target, certainly not at anyone on this Listserv.  The lesson learned for me with these types of exchanges is that attempts to censor is alive and well in too many avenues.  I am a newer member to this forum but I beg it offers more than some other "mediums" and would be best served not trying to stifle others from posting.  It's not how any organization grows, prospers, or attracts free thinkers.  There are no "bots" on here so have we not learned anything from Twitter?

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I believe there are very serious people in this world and very serious people that also have the human element of being friendly, which means allowing for play.  Placing a get off my grass sign in conversation does not sound very friendly and does not allow for brain storming or just plain friendliness, which I see is necessary.  Providing a statement that my group all feels the same is one opinion but really are we this grim of play of any sort in our conversation...that it produces a funeral parlor mentality.

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Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

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I did not take it as jovial, and I have received several personal emails from Listmates who read it the same way I did.  I think there is a lesson here.  Something that may be meant as a joke in person can be pulled off with facial expression, a wink, or a slight smile.  The written word does not work that way.  We need to be aware of that.

...are we as a professional group sooooo serious that we cannot be jovial in our conversation

Whether he thinks that was a joke or not, the reader(s) may not, so he is out of line here.  

I thought It was a funny add on to the conversation...and not at all snarky...

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

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(800) 821-8463

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Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.

As with so many aspects of our work, we need to cautiously approach most "one size fits all" solutions and definitions.  "N" still equals 1.

One of the "requirements" of truck driving is that one must typically "climb up" in some fashion, to get to the driver's seat.  With an arm injury, or even cervical or lumbar restrictions, the hoist/pull postural activity, although but a few seconds long, require beyond sedentary force and activity.  The agility to disembark may also cause pause with regard to some limitations.  Cervical rotations for the sake of watching traffic are also paramount as a requirement.

Going further, I did an onsite JA on a crane operator.  No doubt, the job is sedentary in that case, but as it was located dockside, one had to climb 2 20' vertical ladders to access the "job site." 

Doctors who do the RTW on scenarios such as these certainly need to know the lay of the land before issuing a "no restrictions" opinion, be they treating or IME ones.

Bob Paré

Sent from Mail for Windows

In addition to those already listed, I had a list a couple of years ago that included the Trucking Companies such as CRST, Covenant, Transport America, Knight Transportation, Purdy Bros, Swift, and Trans Am. In addition, Schneider also had automatic transmission trucks to entice couples for team driving.  

I am not here to discuss Twitter or politics which is where that would likely end up.  I don't like to give my opinion on topics that I am not that familiar with but in this case I will say that you are likely pretty far off point in whatever non-Musk entity you are referring to when you say "they" had appeared to do.....well reasoned and good things.  That gave me a chuckle for sure.

Feel free to express your thoughts on Twitter or Musk but I will only respond further on those topics via private email.

Best,

Joe

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IMO, The one liner had no real context and while meant to be off cuff humor, it had no intended target, certainly not at anyone on this Listserv.  The lesson learned for me with these types of exchanges is that attempts to censor is alive and well in too many avenues.  I am a newer member to this forum but I beg it offers more than some other "mediums" and would be best served not trying to stifle others from posting.  It's not how any organization grows, prospers, or attracts free thinkers.  There are no "bots" on here so have we not learned anything from Twitter?

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I believe there are very serious people in this world and very serious people that also have the human element of being friendly, which means allowing for play.  Placing a get off my grass sign in conversation does not sound very friendly and does not allow for brain storming or just plain friendliness, which I see is necessary.  Providing a statement that my group all feels the same is one opinion but really are we this grim of play of any sort in our conversation...that it produces a funeral parlor mentality.

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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I did not take it as jovial, and I have received several personal emails from Listmates who read it the same way I did.  I think there is a lesson here.  Something that may be meant as a joke in person can be pulled off with facial expression, a wink, or a slight smile.  The written word does not work that way.  We need to be aware of that.

...are we as a professional group sooooo serious that we cannot be jovial in our conversation

Whether he thinks that was a joke or not, the reader(s) may not, so he is out of line here.  

I thought It was a funny add on to the conversation...and not at all snarky...

Ronald T. Smolarski, M.A.

Certified Life Care Planner

Forensic Economist

Certified Functional Capacity  Evaluator

Vocational Expert

ron@beaconrehab.com

www.beaconrehab.com

(800) 821-8463

Ann Arbor Michigan, USA

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Gosh, Kenneth, could you get any more snarky?  Any rehab counselor, forensic expert especially, needs to evaluate all duties (or as Scott Stipe referred to as "subset duties") to see if they are within the limitations/capacities of a client/evaluee.  Seems odd to me that deserves a snide response from a "rehabilitation psychologist."

"Boise Barb"

Of course!  One also needs to consider the physical demands of chaining and unchaining the truck in snowy/icy conditions; rolling up and down the landing gear; hooking and pulling off the airlines between the truck and trailer, prolonged sitting, and more.