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  • 1.  ERI Occupational Assessor E-DOT

    Posted 01-24-2023 10:08
    I am trying to figure out how anyone can do a true TSA using this software.  Also, does anyone know how they come up with these new DOT #s which are certainly not listed in the DOL DOT.  I am seeing this done in reports over and over and it makes no sense to me.  Can anyone enlighten me on this company and how they get their information?​

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    Gerri Pennachio
    Vocational Expert/Certified Life Care Planner
    Gerrip8738@aol.com
    Lakeland, FL United States
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  • 2.  RE: ERI Occupational Assessor E-DOT

    Posted 01-24-2023 10:27
    Good morning Gerri, I don't use ERI but I see this is a popular topic and I thought I should share with you that there are many threads you can tap into for more information:https://connect.rehabpro.org/forensic/search?executeSearch=true&SearchTerm=eri&l=1

    Hope this helps.

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    Francois Paradis
    Certified Vocational Evaluator
    francois@career-options.ca
    Toronto, ON Canada
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  • 3.  RE: ERI Occupational Assessor E-DOT

    Posted 01-24-2023 10:32
    Gerri, I am interested in the Edot as well. I see it only from LTD carriers. I understand that you have to pay for the program and its quite costly. Essentially, they are using DOT codes that only exist within that program. For someone without the program, you can't gain access to review the codes. If anyone has other information, I would love to hear about it.

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    Maria Vargas
    Consultant
    Maria@vargasvoc.com
    Belmont, NC United States
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  • 4.  RE: ERI Occupational Assessor E-DOT

    Posted 01-24-2023 19:00
    It is not possible, Gerri. Yes, some insurers use it in order to have a veneer of being current. Their internal vocational consultants seem to do a TSS using a sort of winging it and thin air experience-based, kind of common sense "methodology", never proving access via LMS. Sometimes the result is fine and reasonable. Sometimes occupations are identified which would not, could not come up using DOT.

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    Scott T. Stipe, MA, CRC, CDMS, IPEC, D/ABVE
    Certified Rehabilitation Counselor
    Board Certified Vocational Expert
    Scott Stipe & Associates, Inc.
    DBA Career Directions Northwest
    4110 SE Hawthorne Blvd
    #188
    Portland, Oregon, 97214
    (503)234-4484
    (503)234-4126 fax
    email: sstipe@careerdirectionsnw.com
    website: www.careerdirectionsnw.com
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  • 5.  RE: ERI Occupational Assessor E-DOT

    Posted 01-25-2023 11:03
    This issue of ERI has been discussed on this blog several times over the years. It looks like a very attractive alternative to loss of the DOT as an uypdate. ERI is a commercial for profit expensive service designed for corporate personnel users and some insurance carriers sucker enough to buy into it.

    I had occassdion to look into buying that product and spoke to their sales people and someone who claimed to be a developer. I declined this product or any of their products and not just due to cost. Their date is derived from limited surveys of employers, most of whom are customers. ERI is not interested in a public/private partnership and would not work with BLS or any other government entity to make the product more broadly available (not much profit in that) nor to improve validity.

    I have not heard that ERI has changed and I know that the ERI is not accepted by Social Security. If the products of ERI had any validity, how easy and cheap would it be for Social Security to dump ORS and have an available updated DOT. 

    I would not use ERI and it has been my pleasure to go after invalid Insurance carrier LTD findings based on ERI.

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    Jeffrey Barrett MEd CAP CRC CCM CVE
    Rehabilitation and Vocational Consultant
    optionsplus@vocrehab.com
    Hollywood, FL United States
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