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Resource request: I seem to rarely work with the issues of convictions and how that impacts re-employment options so lack what and how to consider these condition(s) as a vocational barrier to even simple light, unskilled work.  Does anyone have citing's on what types of "convictions" interfere with re-employment?  The evaluee has a lot of issues though 15-19 years ago. Court ordered treatment seemed to clean him up and no issues since 1999. Examples are:

Malicious mischief, DUI x 1, disorderly conduct, criminal trespass, driving without 4x and two x 4th degree assaults.

Of course, I do not want to consider if the length of time from conviction is now irrelevant and employers are not able to consider do to time passing.

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JOHN F. BERG
Vocational Consulting,  Inc.

johnberg@vocationalconsultinginc.com

Seattle, Washington         206-933-8870
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------Original Message------

Resource request: I seem to rarely work with the issues of convictions and how that impacts re-employment options so lack what and how to consider these condition(s) as a vocational barrier to even simple light, unskilled work.  Does anyone have citing's on what types of "convictions" interfere with re-employment?  The evaluee has a lot of issues though 15-19 years ago. Court ordered treatment seemed to clean him up and no issues since 1999. Examples are:

Malicious mischief, DUI x 1, disorderly conduct, criminal trespass, driving without 4x and two x 4th degree assaults.

Of course, I do not want to consider if the length of time from conviction is now irrelevant and employers are not able to consider do to time passing.

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JOHN F. BERG
Vocational Consulting,  Inc.

johnberg@vocationalconsultinginc.com

Seattle, Washington         206-933-8870
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In the State of Washington, most employers do their background checks
through the Washington State Patrol, as it is on line and far less
expensive than an FBI check. When the record comes back, it will have all
convictions in the State of Washington (but no other states). Although
many employers say that they only consider felony convictions in the past 7
or 10 years, they will still see all convictions (felonies, gross
misdemeanors and misdemeanors) . If an applicant has a long rap sheet,
any reasonable employer is going to consider the sum total of the criminal
history, not just the last 7-10 years. Also, in Washington, there are
strict laws about which specific convictions would not allow for a person
to work with vulnerable adults, children, etc. The list is quite long.


Janice K. Olsen, VRC, CDMS
Olsen & Associates, Inc.
Vocational Case Management
253-564-3774, ext. 204
800-322-6001, ext. 204
253-564-8534 fax

------Original Message------

------Original Message------

In the State of Washington, most employers do their background checks
through the Washington State Patrol, as it is on line and far less
expensive than an FBI check. When the record comes back, it will have all
convictions in the State of Washington (but no other states). Although
many employers say that they only consider felony convictions in the past 7
or 10 years, they will still see all convictions (felonies, gross
misdemeanors and misdemeanors) . If an applicant has a long rap sheet,
any reasonable employer is going to consider the sum total of the criminal
history, not just the last 7-10 years. Also, in Washington, there are
strict laws about which specific convictions would not allow for a person
to work with vulnerable adults, children, etc. The list is quite long.


Janice K. Olsen, VRC, CDMS
Olsen & Associates, Inc.
Vocational Case Management
253-564-3774, ext. 204
800-322-6001, ext. 204
253-564-8534 fax

Actually, the law maybe that they can only go back 10 years, though I have been told by more than one employer they go back 20 years, and any type of violent crime many disregard. Most of the reintegrated that I have come across, and I work with a couple of reentry programs, it is very difficult for people to find employment, most going to work only in temp agencies where backgrounds mean less. The other thing to consider is that if he has had court ordered treatment, no matter how long ago, he may have a qualifying disability for V.R. Just my two cents worth. Here is a link I found. 

Pre-Employment Inquiries and Arrest & Conviction

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Pre-Employment Inquiries and Arrest & Conviction Federal law does not prohibit employers from asking about your criminal history. But, federal EEO laws do prohibit employers from discriminating when they use criminal history information. Using criminal history information to make employment decisions may violate Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, as amended (Title VII). View this on Eeoc >

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Philip Young
CEO/Vocational Expert/Forensic Rehabilitation Specialist
phil@compassvocational.com
Dallas, TX United States
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2015 19:13
From: Leslie Rice
Subject: Convictions and length on record if vetted

It is my understanding that employers can only go back 10 years with regard to criminal records.

Sincerely

Rice Rehab, LLC

Leslie Rice, MS, CRC, CCM, MCRSP, N2507

Vocational Case Manager

Cell: 410-404-2413

Fax: 410-844-4188

www.RiceRehab1.com

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Actually, the law maybe that they can only go back 10 years, though I have been told by more than one employer they go back 20 years, and any type of violent crime many disregard. Most of the reintegrated that I have come across, and I work with a couple of reentry programs, it is very difficult for people to find employment, most going to work only in temp agencies where backgrounds mean less. The other thing to consider is that if he has had court ordered treatment, no matter how long ago, he may have a qualifying disability for V.R. Just my two cents worth. Here is a link I found. 

Pre-Employment Inquiries and Arrest & Conviction

Eeoc		remove preview
Pre-Employment Inquiries and Arrest & Conviction Federal law does not prohibit employers from asking about your criminal history. But, federal EEO laws do prohibit employers from discriminating when they use criminal history information. Using criminal history information to make employment decisions may violate Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, as amended (Title VII). View this on Eeoc >

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Philip Young
CEO/Vocational Expert/Forensic Rehabilitation Specialist
phil@compassvocational.com
Dallas, TX United States
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2015 19:13
From: Leslie Rice
Subject: Convictions and length on record if vetted

It is my understanding that employers can only go back 10 years with regard to criminal records.

Sincerely

Rice Rehab, LLC

Leslie Rice, MS, CRC, CCM, MCRSP, N2507

Vocational Case Manager

Cell: 410-404-2413

Fax: 410-844-4188

www.RiceRehab1.com

------Original Message------

Actually, the law maybe that they can only go back 10 years, though I have been told by more than one employer they go back 20 years, and any type of violent crime many disregard. Most of the reintegrated that I have come across, and I work with a couple of reentry programs, it is very difficult for people to find employment, most going to work only in temp agencies where backgrounds mean less. The other thing to consider is that if he has had court ordered treatment, no matter how long ago, he may have a qualifying disability for V.R. Just my two cents worth. Here is a link I found. 

Pre-Employment Inquiries and Arrest & Conviction

Eeoc		remove preview
Pre-Employment Inquiries and Arrest & Conviction Federal law does not prohibit employers from asking about your criminal history. But, federal EEO laws do prohibit employers from discriminating when they use criminal history information. Using criminal history information to make employment decisions may violate Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, as amended (Title VII). View this on Eeoc >

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Philip Young
CEO/Vocational Expert/Forensic Rehabilitation Specialist
phil@compassvocational.com
Dallas, TX United States
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-03-2015 19:13
From: Leslie Rice
Subject: Convictions and length on record if vetted

It is my understanding that employers can only go back 10 years with regard to criminal records.

Sincerely

Rice Rehab, LLC

Leslie Rice, MS, CRC, CCM, MCRSP, N2507

Vocational Case Manager

Cell: 410-404-2413

Fax: 410-844-4188

www.RiceRehab1.com